Talk:The Boondock Saints

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Date	Process	Result
December 3, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
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May 4, 2009	Featured article review	Demoted

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MacManus vs McManus

The non-Collector's Edition DVD credits list the brothers as "Conner MacManus" and "Murphy MacManus". The DVD box reads "McManus". The FA revision uses "McManus", but only mentions the surname once.

If there is no discussion, I will update all instances of the names to match the DVD credits. Flatscan (talk) 05:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had forgotten about this section, but other editors made the change. Flatscan (talk) 01:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overuse of cquotes?

Upon reading this article I can't help but notice that it contains a lot of cquotes, especially for a FA. I was under the impression that cquotes should be used judiciously, per WP:MOS. What do you think? decltype 19:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conner vs Connor

Anyone else catch that? IMDB lists "Connor," a lot of other places list "Conner." I don't have my DVD case in front of me, but if I get a chance I'll try and dig it out for both case/credit verification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.88.3 (talk) 03:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Conner MacManus", according to the non-Collector's Edition DVD credits. I looked up the credits for #MacManus vs McManus above. Flatscan (talk) 04:28, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's Connor MacManus, as seen on the OFFICIAL website http://www.boondocksaints.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.171.172.123 (talk) 04:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I verified the film's credits as "Conner MacManus". The box reads "Connor and Murphy McManus". I believe convention is to cite the film directly, linking an online source for convenience only. I can ask WP:WikiProject Films. The official website is self-inconsistent on their surname, reading "[first name] McManus is one half of the MacManus twins that become the Boondock Saints." Flatscan (talk) 05:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sequel lists "Connor" in the film credits, so I think we should go with that one since it is the more consistent of the two. After all, Fight Club identifies Norton's character as Jack on the DVD where he really is just a nameless narrator. Erik (talk) 11:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input. I looked up several more sources and listed everything I found below. Flatscan (talk) 05:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Original film:

Credits: Conner MacManus
- IMDb (which I updated sometime after December), Allmovie, Variety review
- Searching Google for "The Boondock Saints" "10th Anniversary Event" returns blurbs that seem like quick excerpts from previous reviews.
Subtitles: "Connor", "MacManus brothers"
Some characters are introduced with descriptive text overlays. I didn't see one for the brothers, but I was skipping around and may have missed it.
I found a script online that uses "CONNOR" throughout.

I also tried the Wayback Machine on the official website, but didn't find anything useful. Flatscan (talk) 05:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Boondock Saint Bar in New Orleans

The Boondock Saint is a bar in the French Quarter in New Orleans, Louisiana, located just off Bourbon Street at 731 St. Peter Street. The bar continuously runs the original Boondock Saints movie.

216.132.92.194 (talk) 19:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

German vs Dutch

The Article says they are fluent in german. Being german and having watched the movie countless times, I can assure you that no point in the movie implies their ability to speak fluent german. When they are interrogated by Agent Smecker, they speak dutch, not german. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.186.160.55 (talk) 05:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Nicht in unserer Gegend, Mann. Die sind alle hundert Prozent Irisch. Mit den Bullen spricht keiner. Basta!"

That sounds pretty German to me. Probably because it actually is German rather than Dutch.

84.143.158.18 (talk) 20:17, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Il Duce does not mean "The Duke"

I haven't seen the film, so I won't change the article, but Il Duce actually means "The Leader" (the Italian for "The Duke" is Il Duca).

If the actual dialog of the film (mistakenly) equates Il Duce with "The Duke", this should be said in the article. 93.92.153.12 (talk) 10:20, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The dialog goes like this: Papa Joe Yakavetta tells the retired underboss that he's got a major problem (with the Saints, though he doesn't yet know this), and "I need... Il Duce." The retired underboss looks concerned and says "The Duke? What did you do?" That's pretty much the extent of it. The underboss is also Italian, so if there was a misunderstanding of the term's meaning, it seems to lie with the writers! Crow^Caw 02:06, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So, how can we fix this? maybe explaining it in a note in the article? 93.147.192.208 (talk) 20:07, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I modified the article accordingly 93.144.94.35 (talk) 20:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rocco not "backup"

In the third para of Plot, " Rocco...is sent in as backup" is not accurate. He was sent in on a separate mission, to be killed himself. Neither "Papa Joe" nor Rocco knew the brothers would be there.Sammy D III (talk) 18:21, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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For Thine is the Kingdom??

There was some reference in here about the faith of these folks. Catholic? At the beginning of the film, they say the "Lord's Prayer" or "Our Father" in a church. Catholics end this prayer with "... and deliver us from evil. Amen." Protestants end this with "... and deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom the power and the glory, hollowed be thy name. Amen." It's kind of a big bone of contention between Catholics and Protestants. In the film, they delivered the Protestant version in the church. Was this a goof, or was the church Protestant and not Catholic?

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Making organizations based on the moral value of what the "Boonedock Saints" where all about!

Instead of organizing an MC with Hells Angels backing, why not start something that's good for the entire community standard.

Organize a group of so called saints who instead of committing or organizing crime, would organize a syndicate of uncorrupted no nonsense good moral type of organize crime fighters. Just think, no more human trafficking, Drug smuggling or any type of evil doings against decent human beings. The Saints! 2601:202:100:59A0:63BE:E165:8976:2B63 (talk) 19:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already started " Vineyard Saints" Lodi,Ca. Only the Strong need to apply..... 2601:202:100:59A0:63BE:E165:8976:2B63 (talk) 19:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]